54 Watt T5 Bulb PAR measurements

Ken668 · 08/16/2006, 10:33 AM

Do anyone have a link or know some PAR measurements for different 54 watt T5 bulbs? I'm looking for a list of compiled data. Hopefully all measurements from a certain control distance (6 inches?)

ATI 6500K Sun Pro - ?
ATI 12000K Aquablue Special - ?
ATI Blue Plus - ?
ATI Actinic Blue 03 - ?
General Electric 6500K Daylight - ?
Giesemann 6000K Midday Sun - ?
Giesemann 11000K Aquablue Plus - ?
Giesemann Actinic Plus - ?
Giesemann Pure Actinic 03 - ?
UV Lighting 10000K AquaSun - ?
UV Lighting 12000K Actinic White (50/50) - ?
UV Lighting Super Actinic - ?

Any help would be great. Thanks!

Ken668 · 08/16/2006, 03:32 PM

Anyone?

Cathman · 08/16/2006, 04:01 PM

Check the recent thread that says something like "lets end the debate T5 vs MH" or something like that. I believe on page 2 or 3 someone listed all the PAR ratings.

RobbyG · 08/16/2006, 04:39 PM

Please link me to that thread, it would be like finding the Holy Grail.
BTW I looked and don't see it.

Ken668 · 08/16/2006, 05:10 PM

Here is a start. Too bad they are 39w bulbs. Anyone else know of other measurements to be found?

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh...hreadid=907434

iamquockie · 08/16/2006, 06:20 PM

that link shows only 54w par measurements which is what he is looking for. I think we found the holy grail!

Ken668 · 08/16/2006, 06:35 PM

Thanks for pointing that out iamquockie. Completely overlooked it. Guess I was too busy looking at the first post of the thread.

RobbyG · 08/16/2006, 07:22 PM

I would feel a little more comfortable if those figures did not come from a store, especially one that is selling the product. Also we need MH numbers to compare it to, preferably all these tests should be done by one person using the same meter.

Not to be ungrateful but it would be a little more comforting with tests from an independent source

The Grim Reefer · 08/16/2006, 08:46 PM

Those figures didn't come from a store, they came from me.

HowardW · 08/16/2006, 08:57 PM

Hey Grim, Did you ever get around to testing the UVL 54W Aquasun bulb? My guess would be it's a tad stronger then the Actinic White

The Grim Reefer · 08/16/2006, 09:34 PM

Not yet, gotta jump on that, just have a lot of family stuff getting in the way right now. I have the D&D midday and actinic to do to.

RobbyG · 08/17/2006, 01:00 PM

Huh ok maybe I am not using the link properly. What I saw was a link to a store selling fixtures and bulbs.
Reading the thread again, one of the guys was asking where did the numbers come from and the other guy supplied a link for the Fixture store. Hence my confusion.

Grim can you supply the link for the thread were you posted those numbers. I would love to read the whole thing.

Thanks

The Grim Reefer · 08/17/2006, 01:10 PM

I don't have a link but I have a few more lamps here I gotta do so I will start a new thread with all the lamps and numbers. I pretty much just used a PVC collar to space the sensor an inch away from the lamps and let them rip. I have some ballasts to do too.

crumbletop · 08/17/2006, 03:43 PM

Here is the original link. I had it bookmarked...

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh...15#post7807815

David Grigor · 08/17/2006, 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by HowardW
Hey Grim, Did you ever get around to testing the UVL 54W Aquasun bulb? My guess would be it's a tad stronger then the Actinic White

We did a par comparison and the difference between the Actinic/white and the Aquasun on the Triad ballast was only a few points ( measure 5" away on icecap reflectors 214 vs. 205 reading ). IMO: not significant enough to say the Aquasun was any better ( about 5% ).

To me visually to the eye, the Actinic/White looks better. Aquasun much like the VHO counterpart looks too pink to me. Not for sure if running on an Icecap ballast would have a greater impact on Par comparisons between the two but I doubt it.

Flobajob · 08/17/2006, 04:06 PM

What about Arcadia t5 bulbs? How do they compare?

I only seem to be able to get hold of D&D bulbs or Arcadia ones. Which should I get?

The Grim Reefer · 08/17/2006, 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by David Grigor
We did a par comparison and the difference between the Actinic/white and the Aquasun on the Triad ballast was only a few points ( measure 5" away on icecap reflectors 214 vs. 205 reading ). IMO: not significant enough to say the Aquasun was any better ( about 5% ).

To me visually to the eye, the Actinic/White looks better. Aquasun much like the VHO counterpart looks too pink to me. Not for sure if running on an Icecap ballast would have a greater impact on Par comparisons between the two but I doubt it.

The actinic white looks a little pink to me. Of course Ive been running a 3000K GE too and they look orange so what do I know

I think when mixed with the blues the red spectrum helps bring out more colors.

The Grim Reefer · 08/17/2006, 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Flobajob
What about Arcadia t5 bulbs? How do they compare?

I only seem to be able to get hold of D&D bulbs or Arcadia ones. Which should I get?

I would go D&D just because they are a known quality. Never used Arcadia lamps.

Flobajob · 08/17/2006, 05:17 PM

Thanks. I'll do that unless I come across the par ratings for arcadia bulbs (the arcadia bulbs are easy to get hold of over here, but D&D bulbs are not so easy to find).

ranran · 08/17/2006, 06:16 PM

I noticed PCI Pacific coast imports had a 10K and atinic t-5 lamps have you ever tested them? They are so much less expensive then the other brands i figure there not very good. But you never know until you test them

The Grim Reefer · 08/17/2006, 06:21 PM

Never came across those either. If I was a PHD'ed God of all things lighting like Sanjay maybe all those people would send me stuff to test.

ranran · 08/17/2006, 06:25 PM

I bet i could get you the lamps free if you wanted to test them.

The Grim Reefer · 08/17/2006, 07:34 PM

If you can get them I will do the PAR measurment and compare the look to the "good" lamps.

ranran · 08/17/2006, 07:42 PM

send me a pm with your shipping info and i will see what I can do.

08/16/2006, 10:33 AM	#1
Ken668 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Albany, NY Posts: 832	54 Watt T5 Bulb PAR measurements Do anyone have a link or know some PAR measurements for different 54 watt T5 bulbs? I'm looking for a list of compiled data. Hopefully all measurements from a certain control distance (6 inches?) ATI 6500K Sun Pro - ? ATI 12000K Aquablue Special - ? ATI Blue Plus - ? ATI Actinic Blue 03 - ? General Electric 6500K Daylight - ? Giesemann 6000K Midday Sun - ? Giesemann 11000K Aquablue Plus - ? Giesemann Actinic Plus - ? Giesemann Pure Actinic 03 - ? UV Lighting 10000K AquaSun - ? UV Lighting 12000K Actinic White (50/50) - ? UV Lighting Super Actinic - ? Any help would be great. Thanks!

08/16/2006, 04:39 PM	#4
RobbyG Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: 600 Ft From the Reef Posts: 2,099	Please link me to that thread, it would be like finding the Holy Grail. BTW I looked and don't see it. __________________ The Optimist says the glass is half full, the Pessimist says it’s half empty, an engineer only see's a glass that’s twice as big as it needs to be! Current Tank Info: Insanely Automated Low Power Consumption 90 Gal Oceanic Bow System/Aquatronica Touch Controller/AQ Dosing Pump/AQT LEDS/AQ SMS/Seq Dart Pump/ASM G3/Ozotech Ozonizer/Koralin 1502/Chiller/Typhoon3 Ro/S.Squirt /Phos React/Rmt DSB

08/16/2006, 07:22 PM	#8
RobbyG Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: 600 Ft From the Reef Posts: 2,099	I would feel a little more comfortable if those figures did not come from a store, especially one that is selling the product. Also we need MH numbers to compare it to, preferably all these tests should be done by one person using the same meter. Not to be ungrateful but it would be a little more comforting with tests from an independent source __________________ The Optimist says the glass is half full, the Pessimist says it’s half empty, an engineer only see's a glass that’s twice as big as it needs to be! Current Tank Info: Insanely Automated Low Power Consumption 90 Gal Oceanic Bow System/Aquatronica Touch Controller/AQ Dosing Pump/AQT LEDS/AQ SMS/Seq Dart Pump/ASM G3/Ozotech Ozonizer/Koralin 1502/Chiller/Typhoon3 Ro/S.Squirt /Phos React/Rmt DSB

08/16/2006, 08:46 PM	#9
The Grim Reefer Ready for some NOBALL!!! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Kingman Az Posts: 25,259	Those figures didn't come from a store, they came from me. __________________ America, the way it outta be! Current Tank Info: 120 Starphire with Illudium Q-288 Photon Regurgitator DIY LED lighting

08/16/2006, 08:57 PM	#10
HowardW Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Aurora, IL Posts: 1,763	Hey Grim, Did you ever get around to testing the UVL 54W Aquasun bulb? My guess would be it's a tad stronger then the Actinic White __________________ Florida live rock addict

08/16/2006, 03:32 PM	#2
Ken668 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Albany, NY Posts: 832	Anyone?

08/16/2006, 04:01 PM	#3
Cathman Super Ninja Reefer Join Date: May 2006 Location: Yep, Texas Posts: 142	Check the recent thread that says something like "lets end the debate T5 vs MH" or something like that. I believe on page 2 or 3 someone listed all the PAR ratings.

08/16/2006, 05:10 PM	#5
Ken668 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Albany, NY Posts: 832	Here is a start. Too bad they are 39w bulbs. Anyone else know of other measurements to be found? http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh...hreadid=907434

08/16/2006, 06:20 PM	#6
iamquockie Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: dfw Posts: 276	that link shows only 54w par measurements which is what he is looking for. I think we found the holy grail!

08/16/2006, 06:35 PM	#7
Ken668 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Albany, NY Posts: 832	Thanks for pointing that out iamquockie. Completely overlooked it. Guess I was too busy looking at the first post of the thread.

08/16/2006, 09:34 PM	#11
The Grim Reefer Ready for some NOBALL!!! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Kingman Az Posts: 25,259	Not yet, gotta jump on that, just have a lot of family stuff getting in the way right now. I have the D&D midday and actinic to do to. __________________ America, the way it outta be! Current Tank Info: 120 Starphire with Illudium Q-288 Photon Regurgitator DIY LED lighting

08/17/2006, 01:00 PM	#12
RobbyG Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: 600 Ft From the Reef Posts: 2,099	Huh ok maybe I am not using the link properly. What I saw was a link to a store selling fixtures and bulbs. Reading the thread again, one of the guys was asking where did the numbers come from and the other guy supplied a link for the Fixture store. Hence my confusion. Grim can you supply the link for the thread were you posted those numbers. I would love to read the whole thing. Thanks __________________ The Optimist says the glass is half full, the Pessimist says it’s half empty, an engineer only see's a glass that’s twice as big as it needs to be! Current Tank Info: Insanely Automated Low Power Consumption 90 Gal Oceanic Bow System/Aquatronica Touch Controller/AQ Dosing Pump/AQT LEDS/AQ SMS/Seq Dart Pump/ASM G3/Ozotech Ozonizer/Koralin 1502/Chiller/Typhoon3 Ro/S.Squirt /Phos React/Rmt DSB

08/17/2006, 01:10 PM	#13
The Grim Reefer Ready for some NOBALL!!! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Kingman Az Posts: 25,259	I don't have a link but I have a few more lamps here I gotta do so I will start a new thread with all the lamps and numbers. I pretty much just used a PVC collar to space the sensor an inch away from the lamps and let them rip. I have some ballasts to do too. __________________ America, the way it outta be! Current Tank Info: 120 Starphire with Illudium Q-288 Photon Regurgitator DIY LED lighting

08/17/2006, 03:43 PM	#14
crumbletop Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 4,718	Here is the original link. I had it bookmarked... http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh...15#post7807815 __________________ "Misers get up early in the morning; and burglars, I am informed, get up the night before." - GK Chesterton Current Tank Info: 90 gallon AGA RR. 20 gal sump. 6x54W T5. AquaController Jr.

08/17/2006, 04:06 PM	#16
Flobajob Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Manchester, England Posts: 388	What about Arcadia t5 bulbs? How do they compare? I only seem to be able to get hold of D&D bulbs or Arcadia ones. Which should I get? __________________ Preserve nature - pickle a squirrel

08/17/2006, 05:17 PM	#19
Flobajob Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Manchester, England Posts: 388	Thanks. I'll do that unless I come across the par ratings for arcadia bulbs (the arcadia bulbs are easy to get hold of over here, but D&D bulbs are not so easy to find). __________________ Preserve nature - pickle a squirrel

08/17/2006, 06:16 PM	#20
ranran Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: vanc wa Posts: 765	I noticed PCI Pacific coast imports had a 10K and atinic t-5 lamps have you ever tested them? They are so much less expensive then the other brands i figure there not very good. But you never know until you test them __________________ Randy Current Tank Info: down sized to a 200 gal starfire!

08/17/2006, 06:21 PM	#21
The Grim Reefer Ready for some NOBALL!!! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Kingman Az Posts: 25,259	Never came across those either. If I was a PHD'ed God of all things lighting like Sanjay maybe all those people would send me stuff to test. __________________ America, the way it outta be! Current Tank Info: 120 Starphire with Illudium Q-288 Photon Regurgitator DIY LED lighting

08/17/2006, 06:25 PM	#22
ranran Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: vanc wa Posts: 765	I bet i could get you the lamps free if you wanted to test them. __________________ Randy Current Tank Info: down sized to a 200 gal starfire!

08/17/2006, 07:34 PM	#23
The Grim Reefer Ready for some NOBALL!!! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Kingman Az Posts: 25,259	If you can get them I will do the PAR measurment and compare the look to the "good" lamps. __________________ America, the way it outta be! Current Tank Info: 120 Starphire with Illudium Q-288 Photon Regurgitator DIY LED lighting

08/17/2006, 07:42 PM	#24
ranran Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: vanc wa Posts: 765	send me a pm with your shipping info and i will see what I can do. __________________ Randy Current Tank Info: down sized to a 200 gal starfire!