Melev's new 280g Starfire tank thread

JohnL · 08/21/2006, 08:20 PM

This thread was automatically split due to performance issues. You can find the rest of the thread here: http://reefcentral.com/forums/showth...03#post7985303

jaeden · 08/21/2006, 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jnarowe
Using a syringe would be very tough because you would have to refill during a glue up. I Think that wiould be a mistake. Should have ordered it when you ordered the glue!!

Your right I wouldn't recommend using a turkey syringe ,had an applicator but it got clogged too impatient to wait for another one but it worked fine you just had too be quick water tested it same day no problems wouldn't t recommend that either but I was working in 95+ temps

jaeden · 08/21/2006, 08:22 PM

does this mean I win a prize

NuclearReefs · 08/21/2006, 08:44 PM

Marc will give you one of these..

Lordhelmet · 08/21/2006, 08:59 PM

ANOTHER SPLIT!!!!

jnarowe · 08/21/2006, 09:08 PM

Sweet coral.

jaeden: When the applicator clogs, you can heat it with a lighter and it will unclog. And that's your tip for the day!

arconom · 08/21/2006, 09:09 PM

Marc, you are the SPLIT master!!

melev · 08/21/2006, 11:49 PM

And yes, that is totally Tip for the Day, Jonathan. (Unclogging a needle tip applicator)

TippyToeX · 08/21/2006, 11:52 PM

A spilt while you have been overhauling your site too!

Love the changes BTW.

'gats on the split.

melev · 08/22/2006, 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JohnL
This thread was automatically split due to performance issues. You can find the rest of the thread here: http://reefcentral.com/forums/showth...03#post7985303

Thanks John!

NexDog · 08/22/2006, 01:35 AM

Split Number 5? Surely this is the longest thread in RC history?

melev · 08/22/2006, 01:44 AM

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Originally posted by NexDog
Split Number 5? Surely this is the longest thread in RC history?

This should be #6 according to my notes:

Beginning of 280g thread (starts 7/20/04) (107 pages):
http://reefcentral.com/forums/showth...01#post3198801

1st split after 107 pages (starts 3/19/05) (40 pages):
http://reefcentral.com/forums/showth...11#post4559211

2nd split after 40 more pages (starts 6/09/05):
http://reefcentral.com/forums/showth...17#post5098317

3rd split after 40 more page (starts 9/19/05):
http://reefcentral.com/forums/showth...56#post5744056

4th split after 40 more pages (starts 12/07/05):
http://reefcentral.com/forums/showth...84#post6235584

5th split after 40 more pages (starts 3/25/06):
http://reefcentral.com/forums/showth...97#post7038197

6th split after 40 more pages (starts 8/21/06):
http://reefcentral.com/forums/showth...04#post7985304
(Page #307!)

Snakebyt · 08/22/2006, 01:47 AM

cant believe this thread split again.. cant wait to read more..

Hop · 08/22/2006, 04:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by melev
This should be #6 according to my notes:

Beginning of 280g thread (starts 7/20/04) (107 pages):
http://reefcentral.com/forums/showth...01#post3198801

1st split after 107 pages (starts 3/19/05) (40 pages):
http://reefcentral.com/forums/showth...11#post4559211

2nd split after 40 more pages (starts 6/09/05):
http://reefcentral.com/forums/showth...17#post5098317

3rd split after 40 more page (starts 9/19/05):
http://reefcentral.com/forums/showth...56#post5744056

4th split after 40 more pages (starts 12/07/05):
http://reefcentral.com/forums/showth...84#post6235584

5th split after 40 more pages (starts 3/25/06):
http://reefcentral.com/forums/showth...97#post7038197

6th split after 40 more pages (starts 8/21/06):
http://reefcentral.com/forums/showth...04#post7985304
(Page #307!)

Not like you are keeping track or anything

melev · 08/22/2006, 06:34 AM

I had to. People kept asking me what page we were on, or how many times it had split.

Zoom · 08/22/2006, 07:44 AM

Do you have any problems with the SPS browning when you use Chemi-Clean ?
My tank getting some cyno about three hours after my light come on and goes away after three more i have the MH on for 8 hours.
I did use the CC before but it brown all of my SPS and kill one clam.
Do you have any advice how to use this product .
And if you think will be safe to use it.
Thanks.

melev · 08/22/2006, 08:46 AM

I do think it is safe to use, and I use it often enough that the cyano in my system must be immune at this point.

About two weeks ago, I put in enough Chemi Clean to treat 600g of water (two packages worth), and left the skimmer off for 48 hours. After that, I changed 55g of water, and turned on the skimmer.

I do buffer the alkalinity/pH 10 minutes before dosing, because it will drop when you dose. When I was ready, I checked pH and it was 8.2 and ORP was 379. I added some baked baking sode mixed in RO water, and 10 minutes later, added the Chemi Clean. ORP dropped to 81 in 90 seconds. The BTAs looked upset, but the rest of the reef was unaffected, including the Maxima. The mfg recommends adding an airstone to the tank when dosing, but I have a huge sump and lots of flow (rippling surface) so I believe my system has oxygen covered.

A lot of the cyano bacteria died back. I think I should have just dosed for 300g, and then after 48 hours added another dose instead to hurt the already weakened plague. That stuff is annoying, to be sure.

However, I've never had any losses nor had SPS turn colors after using it.

Enderrea · 08/22/2006, 09:19 AM

funny thing did't think about that. i did order the applicator bottle.
still have not gotten the order................ i think i need to call them it is now been a week......... i am impient ! it's all Marc and Jonnathen fault!!!!

jnarowe · 08/22/2006, 09:30 AM

Enderrea: You should have gotten it within 2 days.

melev · 08/22/2006, 09:57 AM

Yesterday while working on my site, I came across this old picture from two years ago.

This is three days after the blue A. millepora was put in the 280g reef. It is located right above the Flame Angel and was maybe 5" wide, basing that on the size of the T. maxima clam below it.
August 5, 2004.

Here it is, twenty-two months later. Same spot, just much bigger, to the left of the white feeding clip. Its baby is to the left of the main colony, located between the two Tunze Streams.

At twenty-three months, I had that rockslide, and had to rearrange the corals. Here's the underside of the parent colony. Note the Astrea snail for a sense of scale.

In their new position, taken under actinics.

This is a macro shot taken from above; the parent colony with its baby beneath.
August 11, 2006

I guess you could say I definitely got my money's worth with this coral.

stereomandan · 08/22/2006, 10:04 AM

Hey Marc, the tank is looking great. I've been out for a long, long while... building our house for the last year... I can't believe your post count!!!

Keep up the good work.

My tank is up and running although the upkeep has been dismal for the last year. Everything is still alive, but I need to do some major pruning and maintenance. Your thread here has inspired me to get back at it.

Later,
Dan

jnarowe · 08/22/2006, 10:04 AM

sweet. nice growth!

melev · 08/22/2006, 10:18 AM

Dan, I've not seen you in forever! It's been so long, I think it's time for the obligatory

To Reef Central

Glad to know I'm helping you get back on the horse, so to speak. Looking forward to reading about your tank again. Be sure to link me to your thread.

stereomandan · 08/22/2006, 10:26 AM

Quote:

Glad to know I'm helping you get back on the horse, so to speak. Looking forward to reading about your tank again. Be sure to link me to your thread. [/B]

Will do.

Dan

melev · 08/22/2006, 10:51 AM

A couple of nights ago, the Tiger Cowrie was on the glass. That is rather unusual, so I grabbed my camera and tried to get some decent pictures in low lighting.

For this picture, I turned on the lights in the room to provide some back-lighting.

Finally I turned on the flash.

It is about the size of a lemon. I like him.

08/21/2006, 08:44 PM	#4
NuclearReefs Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Fort Lauderdale Florida Posts: 2,606	Marc will give you one of these.. __________________ Kalkwasser in Coffee Current Tank Info: 125 RR SPS, LED's & T-5 O3's

08/21/2006, 08:59 PM	#5
Lordhelmet Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 2,008	ANOTHER SPLIT!!!! __________________ I need a new signiture Current Tank Info: 90 gallon, 14 gallon

08/21/2006, 11:52 PM	#9
TippyToeX Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 10,711	A spilt while you have been overhauling your site too! Love the changes BTW. 'gats on the split. __________________ -Amy-

08/22/2006, 01:35 AM	#11
NexDog Snail Killer Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Kyushu, Japan Posts: 4,804	Split Number 5? Surely this is the longest thread in RC history? __________________ Laurence Flynn 340g In-Wall Envision Tank and 150g Sump. Current Tank Info: Deltec 902, PFO hood with 3x400w Radium 20k and 4x96w PC's. Hammerhead closed loop - and 2 x Tunze 6105 (and Vortech still sucks).

08/22/2006, 07:44 AM	#16
Zoom Premium Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: S.N.J Posts: 5,706	melev Do you have any problems with the SPS browning when you use Chemi-Clean ? My tank getting some cyno about three hours after my light come on and goes away after three more i have the MH on for 8 hours. I did use the CC before but it brown all of my SPS and kill one clam. Do you have any advice how to use this product . And if you think will be safe to use it. Thanks.

08/21/2006, 08:20 PM	#1
JohnL RC Staff Join Date: Oct 1999 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 14,431	This thread was automatically split due to performance issues. You can find the rest of the thread here: http://reefcentral.com/forums/showth...03#post7985303

08/21/2006, 08:22 PM	#3
jaeden Registered Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Hollywood Fl Posts: 356	does this mean I win a prize

08/21/2006, 09:08 PM	#6
jnarowe Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Poulsbo, WA Posts: 14,710	Sweet coral. jaeden: When the applicator clogs, you can heat it with a lighter and it will unclog. And that's your tip for the day! __________________ Jonathan--Recovering Tankaholic. Current Tank Info: 70g fresh planted

08/21/2006, 09:09 PM	#7
arconom Premium Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Middletown, NY Posts: 2,126	Marc, you are the SPLIT master!!

08/21/2006, 11:49 PM	#8
melev Moved On Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Ft Worth, Tx Posts: 43,217	And yes, that is totally Tip for the Day, Jonathan. (Unclogging a needle tip applicator)

08/22/2006, 01:47 AM	#13
Snakebyt Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Lubbock Tx Posts: 2,141	cant believe this thread split again.. cant wait to read more..

08/22/2006, 06:34 AM	#15
melev Moved On Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Ft Worth, Tx Posts: 43,217	I had to. People kept asking me what page we were on, or how many times it had split.

08/22/2006, 08:46 AM	#17
melev Moved On Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Ft Worth, Tx Posts: 43,217	I do think it is safe to use, and I use it often enough that the cyano in my system must be immune at this point. About two weeks ago, I put in enough Chemi Clean to treat 600g of water (two packages worth), and left the skimmer off for 48 hours. After that, I changed 55g of water, and turned on the skimmer. I do buffer the alkalinity/pH 10 minutes before dosing, because it will drop when you dose. When I was ready, I checked pH and it was 8.2 and ORP was 379. I added some baked baking sode mixed in RO water, and 10 minutes later, added the Chemi Clean. ORP dropped to 81 in 90 seconds. The BTAs looked upset, but the rest of the reef was unaffected, including the Maxima. The mfg recommends adding an airstone to the tank when dosing, but I have a huge sump and lots of flow (rippling surface) so I believe my system has oxygen covered. A lot of the cyano bacteria died back. I think I should have just dosed for 300g, and then after 48 hours added another dose instead to hurt the already weakened plague. That stuff is annoying, to be sure. However, I've never had any losses nor had SPS turn colors after using it.

08/22/2006, 09:19 AM	#18
Enderrea Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Shoreline, Wa Posts: 235	funny thing did't think about that. i did order the applicator bottle. still have not gotten the order................ i think i need to call them it is now been a week......... i am impient ! it's all Marc and Jonnathen fault!!!! __________________ 101st Screaming Chickens! God Bless those still in Harms way. James Current Tank Info: 80 gallon Lake tanganyika Last edited by Enderrea; 08/22/2006 at 09:48 AM.

08/22/2006, 09:30 AM	#19
jnarowe Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Poulsbo, WA Posts: 14,710	Enderrea: You should have gotten it within 2 days. __________________ Jonathan--Recovering Tankaholic. Current Tank Info: 70g fresh planted

08/22/2006, 09:57 AM	#20
melev Moved On Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Ft Worth, Tx Posts: 43,217	Growth Sequence Yesterday while working on my site, I came across this old picture from two years ago. This is three days after the blue A. millepora was put in the 280g reef. It is located right above the Flame Angel and was maybe 5" wide, basing that on the size of the T. maxima clam below it. August 5, 2004. Here it is, twenty-two months later. Same spot, just much bigger, to the left of the white feeding clip. Its baby is to the left of the main colony, located between the two Tunze Streams. At twenty-three months, I had that rockslide, and had to rearrange the corals. Here's the underside of the parent colony. Note the Astrea snail for a sense of scale. In their new position, taken under actinics. This is a macro shot taken from above; the parent colony with its baby beneath. August 11, 2006 I guess you could say I definitely got my money's worth with this coral.

08/22/2006, 10:04 AM	#21
stereomandan Premium Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Michigan Posts: 2,888	Hey Marc, the tank is looking great. I've been out for a long, long while... building our house for the last year... I can't believe your post count!!! Keep up the good work. My tank is up and running although the upkeep has been dismal for the last year. Everything is still alive, but I need to do some major pruning and maintenance. Your thread here has inspired me to get back at it. Later, Dan __________________ 90g Tank, 75 lbs Live Rock, T5, T8 and VHO Lighting, Closed loop on Snapper Pump 1.5" Sand in main tank, DSB in 38g Sump, B-ionic Daily, Temp 79, SG 1.026 LPS, Softies Current Tank Info: 90 Gallon Reef

08/22/2006, 10:04 AM	#22
jnarowe Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Poulsbo, WA Posts: 14,710	sweet. nice growth! __________________ Jonathan--Recovering Tankaholic. Current Tank Info: 70g fresh planted

08/22/2006, 10:18 AM	#23
melev Moved On Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Ft Worth, Tx Posts: 43,217	Dan, I've not seen you in forever! It's been so long, I think it's time for the obligatory *To Reef Central* Glad to know I'm helping you get back on the horse, so to speak. Looking forward to reading about your tank again. Be sure to link me to your thread.

08/22/2006, 10:51 AM	#25
melev Moved On Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Ft Worth, Tx Posts: 43,217	A couple of nights ago, the Tiger Cowrie was on the glass. That is rather unusual, so I grabbed my camera and tried to get some decent pictures in low lighting. For this picture, I turned on the lights in the room to provide some back-lighting. Finally I turned on the flash. It is about the size of a lemon. I like him.