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Unread 08/23/2006, 11:10 PM   #1
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SPS ,DOM and bacteria

Here is a very good read. Its an old paper but it has some very insightful info . Enjoy

http://www.aslo.org/lo/toc/vol_18/issue_3/0380.pdf


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Unread 08/23/2006, 11:16 PM   #2
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another

http://faculty.washington.edu/aingal...Acoral2003.pdf


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Unread 08/24/2006, 06:44 AM   #3
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Were do you find this stuff? I will be sending this to my printer port now Can you find anything on color enhancement For Sps?
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Unread 08/24/2006, 07:21 AM   #4
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Can you say ZEOVIT? This is precisely what Zeovit is all about folks....


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Unread 08/24/2006, 10:12 AM   #5
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Can you say ZEOVIT? This is precisely what Zeovit is all about folks....
What the heck are you talking about? I didn't see a single referrence to washed out pastel colors in either article...


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What the heck are you talking about? I didn't see a single referrence to washed out pastel colors in either article...
I was thinking the same thing


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What the heck are you talking about? I didn't see a single referrence to washed out pastel colors in either article...
Wow, these are certainly some washed out colors dont you think?














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Unread 08/24/2006, 11:01 AM   #8
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Wow, these are certainly some washed out colors dont you think?
Come on Horace don't be such a hypocrite... I've read your own posts complaining about pastel colors over on Z dot com

I'm not sure how posting old pics of gqjeffs ZEOcorals helps your argument anyway... Most of them are currently dead Which opens up another longstanding ZEO can of worms

This is straight from the maestro's tank at KZ... and to me, they look washed out/pastel. They are colorful... but too light IMO.




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Sorry to sidetrack your thread clkwrk... carry on


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Unread 08/24/2006, 08:03 PM   #10
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Come on Horace don't be such a hypocrite... I've read your own posts complaining about pastel colors over on Z dot com
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First off, try reading my entire post and not picking and choosing which portions to report here. I have had pastel colors ever since I started my tank and that was long before I started using Zeovit. So Zeo is not the reason for that. I will post pictures of my corals in another month or two and we will see.

As for Jeffs crash, that was most likely caused by a major temp/alk swing that occured while he was on vacation during a very long power outage. I highly doubt it has anything to do with Zeo because his corals were the healthiest corals I had ever seen before that happend.


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Unread 08/25/2006, 12:20 PM   #11
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You ought to check out Coral Reef Ecology by Yuri Sorokin. It's hard to find but it's worth it if you can find a copy.

Eric Borneman did a write up about it some years ago.

Eric Borneman did a write up of some of his research on this link.
http://www.reefs.org/library/talklog...an_051098.html

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Indeed, corals do actively feed on bacteria in the mucus, in the water, and attached to particulate matter. They typically utilize them for 5% of their diet, by weight. This is on an efficiency level on par with many of the specialized filter feeders and sponges. Sorokin found that, in general, bacterioplankton ingestion alone can provide from 8-25% of the coral’s respiratory demands. This amount is the equivlent of 1-10% of the animals total biomass per day...from bacterioplankton!! Its assimilation index by nutritional content is the equivalent to the nutrition acquired by the capture of small crustaceans (which are by weight, much greater and a greater energy expenditure to capture). Phosphorus, a normally limiting resource in coral reefs, is found in the cell walls of bacteria. Coral consumption of bacterioplankton provides them with a more easily assimilated source of phosphorous than from the uptake of inorganic phosphate contained in the water.
If you read the whole article, WHICH I HIGHLY RECOMMEND, you can hit [CTRL] F to pull up the "find" dialog box and punch in Sorokin. However, the whole article is based on his work. Eric really brushes over some things in it but there are some things that the boards rarely discuss, AEROBIC denitrification, the fact that there are more than 80 strains of bacteria doing things in our tank, etc. Just in the paragraph I paraphrased above, it shows that corals do not like to capture pods because of the energy expenditure....they like to capture bacteria in mucous nets. Not only that, they "farm and raise" bacteria for their food needs. These things are rarely discussed on the reef boards.

Here's how a bookstore describes the book
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Coral reef communities are among the most complex, mature and productive ecosystems on earth. Their activity resulted in the creation of vast lime constructions. Being extremely productive and having the function of a powerful biofilter, coral reefs play an important role in global biogeochemical processes and in the reproduction of food resources in tropical marine regions. All aspects of coral reef science are covered systematically and on the basis of a holistic ecosystem approach. The geological history of coral reefs, their geomorphology as well as biology including community structure of reef biota, their functional characteristics, physiological aspects, biogeochemical metabolism, energy balance, environmental problems and management of resources are treated in detail.
Here's how a scientist I know describes the book
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bacteria and microalgal interrelationships in benthic sediments and give a great deal of detail on the relationships of these nutrient cycles with theperiphytonic communities of algal turfs and pelagic bacterial and phytoplanktonic populations.



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