refugium or sump

Remicade · 08/29/2006, 06:49 PM

im a bit confused on this terminology.
i have a acrylic box in my stand that the water from the tank goes into thru t he bio balls and thru some carbon and then back to the tank. is this a sump or a fuge? i've seen adds and posts mixing the names together and vice versa
my
reason asking is because i want to build or buy the opposite of what i have. i am getting ready to remove the CC from my tank bottom and replace it with sand, and use a fuge or sump withsome LR and sand with some micro algae to bring down my outta control nitrate problem.
i been to melev's site and got some good ideas from there. any help with this would be most grateful.

kraze3 · 08/29/2006, 06:55 PM

Right now you have a sump. The fuge is what your looking to get. Fuge has the macro, some sand, a rubble pile and so on. You may want to think about removing your bioballs(slowly). Ive heard nothing but negative things about them.

sir_dudeguy · 08/29/2006, 06:56 PM

actually wouldnt that be a wet/dry what he's got right now? cuz he's got the bioballs...idk.

chrisd4421 · 08/29/2006, 06:57 PM

A sump is a "tank" that holds additional water volume which most people use to add top=off water, test for water parameters, set probes and heaters in as hide skimmer in out of plain view.

A Refugium is a "tank" that ads additional volume of water with some biodiversity in terms of Macro Algae, LS, LR, etc... to help natuarlly control things like nitrates.

Many times, a "sump" contains a chamber that acts like a "refugium" in it.

HTH
Chris

chrisd4421 · 08/29/2006, 06:57 PM

A sump is a "tank" that holds additional water volume which most people use to add top=off water, test for water parameters, set probes and heaters in as hide skimmer in out of plain view.

A Refugium is a "tank" that adds additional volume of water with some biodiversity in terms of Macro Algae, LS, LR, etc... to help natuarlly control things like nitrates.

Many times, a "sump" contains a chamber that acts like a "refugium" in it.

HTH
Chris

kraze3 · 08/29/2006, 06:59 PM

Yea it would be a wet/dry. I categorize a wet/dry with sumps. It hold additional water and you can put your heaters and stuff in there.

sir_dudeguy · 08/29/2006, 07:06 PM

ya just checkin. But i second what chris said

Remicade · 08/29/2006, 08:10 PM

that seems to unfogga few things for me. thanks.
now to master this aweful nitrate problem.

08/29/2006, 06:49 PM	#1
Remicade Moved On Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Downingtown/Eagle, Pa Posts: 145	refugium or sump im a bit confused on this terminology. i have a acrylic box in my stand that the water from the tank goes into thru t he bio balls and thru some carbon and then back to the tank. is this a sump or a fuge? i've seen adds and posts mixing the names together and vice versa my reason asking is because i want to build or buy the opposite of what i have. i am getting ready to remove the CC from my tank bottom and replace it with sand, and use a fuge or sump withsome LR and sand with some micro algae to bring down my outta control nitrate problem. i been to melev's site and got some good ideas from there. any help with this would be most grateful.

08/29/2006, 06:56 PM	#3
sir_dudeguy Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 10,841	actually wouldnt that be a wet/dry what he's got right now? cuz he's got the bioballs...idk. __________________ TAKE...LUCK!!!

08/29/2006, 06:57 PM	#4
chrisd4421 Premium Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Plainfield, NJ Posts: 290	A sump is a "tank" that holds additional water volume which most people use to add top=off water, test for water parameters, set probes and heaters in as hide skimmer in out of plain view. A Refugium is a "tank" that ads additional volume of water with some biodiversity in terms of Macro Algae, LS, LR, etc... to help natuarlly control things like nitrates. Many times, a "sump" contains a chamber that acts like a "refugium" in it. HTH Chris __________________ "Discontent is the first necessity of progress" ~T.A. Edison

08/29/2006, 06:57 PM	#5
chrisd4421 Premium Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Plainfield, NJ Posts: 290	A sump is a "tank" that holds additional water volume which most people use to add top=off water, test for water parameters, set probes and heaters in as hide skimmer in out of plain view. A Refugium is a "tank" that adds additional volume of water with some biodiversity in terms of Macro Algae, LS, LR, etc... to help natuarlly control things like nitrates. Many times, a "sump" contains a chamber that acts like a "refugium" in it. HTH Chris __________________ "Discontent is the first necessity of progress" ~T.A. Edison

08/29/2006, 07:06 PM	#7
sir_dudeguy Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 10,841	ya just checkin. But i second what chris said __________________ TAKE...LUCK!!!

08/29/2006, 06:55 PM	#2
kraze3 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: RI Posts: 2,373	Right now you have a sump. The fuge is what your looking to get. Fuge has the macro, some sand, a rubble pile and so on. You may want to think about removing your bioballs(slowly). Ive heard nothing but negative things about them.

08/29/2006, 06:59 PM	#6
kraze3 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: RI Posts: 2,373	Yea it would be a wet/dry. I categorize a wet/dry with sumps. It hold additional water and you can put your heaters and stuff in there.

08/29/2006, 08:10 PM	#8
Remicade Moved On Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Downingtown/Eagle, Pa Posts: 145	that seems to unfogga few things for me. thanks. now to master this aweful nitrate problem.