Skimmer Blue Book

drives300 · 09/02/2006, 11:43 AM

i am in the process of starting a new tank and was looking into a skimmer. I originally thought of a mce 600 deltec but I see the used for 350- 400 doillars and they are 458 new. Thats a reduction of about 20 %. Now a remora pro costs 221.00 new and they sell for 150 used that is avout a 33% depreciation. Now I can buy a Jebo Skimmer for 40 dollars and probaly couldnt sell it used so it would be a depreciation of about 100%. Does anyone look into resale value of equiptment when purchasing. I know we all have opinions of which is better but for the purpose of this thread I was wondering about equiptment holding its value. Also I considered if I bought a deltec, I would loose less than if I bought a remora so that leans me toward deltec. Any opinions

anydarnthing · 09/02/2006, 12:05 PM

Depends on if you have caught the "Reef Virus" which causes feelings of "I need a bigger tank", I started with a 55gal and now I have a 240gal, so I began to buy for future upgrades, just remember that your market for the high end gear is a lot smaller then the mid-range so you might get a $500 Deltec and try to sell it for $400 but that is still too high for a lot of reefers. So I would just get a skimmer way overrated for your tank so you can use it on your new larger tank.

bubbaOPPD · 09/02/2006, 12:08 PM

I just bought a H&S A200 3x F2001 and I never for one minute thought of resale value. Plus who could really want to buy a skimmer that cost as much as a used car.

old salty · 09/02/2006, 03:54 PM

I don't buy equipment for resale value, but it's nice to know that the high end stuff that I do have would sell rather quickly. Personally, I think that the best market out there are the folks who want high end, but can't afford it new. Take a few hundred dollars off the price of a new Deltec and it becomes attractive to many more people.

drives300 · 09/02/2006, 04:50 PM

i agree i would rather buy good used stuff than cheap new stuff. I have gone in/out of this hobby several times and I like to come as close to possible in breaking even.

McCrary · 09/02/2006, 05:54 PM

Certain skimmers seem to hold their resale value very well. But I think it would be a mistake to purchase one based on that.

drives300 · 09/02/2006, 07:10 PM

Why not.. Not just skimmers but all reef equiptment. Lighting etc. I like to plan on using them and if I upgrade or quit know I can get something back for most of it.

rsxs1212 · 09/02/2006, 07:19 PM

i think i agree with alot of this.. resale is great but also just buying a big skimmer is too..

yeah bradenton!! maybe well have to hook up to take care of each others tanks or something when we are away lol...

McCrary · 09/02/2006, 07:25 PM

Resale value may have an impact on your decision to purchase an item. But to base any large part of your decision on the resale value would be a mistake. The decision should be based on performance, efficiency and quality.

drives300 · 09/02/2006, 08:07 PM

I agree turbosnail . however I notice that performance, efficiency , and quality seem to go hand and hand with resale value. Ie Deltec skimmers.

RSxs do you race. I go to the track with my neighbor occasionally who drag races. Well have to meet some time if you do

rsxs1212 · 09/03/2006, 01:09 PM

yeah i go sometimes.. i dont race myself but i go sometimes.. i live in greyhawk landing which is right along 64 before desoto speedway by a couple miles..

like you said usually the higher the price the higher the quality or resale value.. except for example: seaclones.. coralife superskimmer in many people opinion are much better and are actually cheaper.. i doubt you could even sell a seaclone on here.. but a css could be sold.. for example you could get a css 65 for around 85 shipped off ebay NEW.. a seaclone is around 100 at like petsmart (i dont know how much on ebay).. but you could resell the css 65 for ive seen them go for anywhere from 35 to 50 here on rc but ive never even seen a seaclone for sale mainly because i think most of them end up in the trashcan

Altpers0na-old · 09/03/2006, 01:18 PM

whats the blue book on a lightly used fisson?

clkwrk · 09/03/2006, 01:45 PM

IMO the resell value reflects the quality of a product .

If Tunze streams sucked they wouldn't resell as high as they do .If deltec wasn't a nice skimmer that performs top notch its resell would be less also .

Good performing quality componets keep their value because even a year or 3 down the line they still perform like new .

09/02/2006, 11:43 AM	#1
drives300 Premium Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bradenton, FL Posts: 961	Skimmer Blue Book i am in the process of starting a new tank and was looking into a skimmer. I originally thought of a mce 600 deltec but I see the used for 350- 400 doillars and they are 458 new. Thats a reduction of about 20 %. Now a remora pro costs 221.00 new and they sell for 150 used that is avout a 33% depreciation. Now I can buy a Jebo Skimmer for 40 dollars and probaly couldnt sell it used so it would be a depreciation of about 100%. Does anyone look into resale value of equiptment when purchasing. I know we all have opinions of which is better but for the purpose of this thread I was wondering about equiptment holding its value. Also I considered if I bought a deltec, I would loose less than if I bought a remora so that leans me toward deltec. Any opinions __________________ Water Param 79 degrees nit 0 amm 0 phos 0 salifers Calcium 450 salifer alk 11 dkh Ph 8-8.1 Current Tank Info: 90 Gallon,reef octopus nw150, 2 oceanflow mods, 2x 250w 10k mh, phos reactor

09/02/2006, 12:05 PM	#2
anydarnthing Registered Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Omaha Posts: 657	Depends on if you have caught the "Reef Virus" which causes feelings of "I need a bigger tank", I started with a 55gal and now I have a 240gal, so I began to buy for future upgrades, just remember that your market for the high end gear is a lot smaller then the mid-range so you might get a $500 Deltec and try to sell it for $400 but that is still too high for a lot of reefers. So I would just get a skimmer way overrated for your tank so you can use it on your new larger tank. __________________ No good deed goes unpunished... Current Tank Info: 240gal softy Reef, 220gal Reef, 29gal Nano reef, 75gal holding tank, H&S A200 3xF2001 & A250 2x1260, 2x 72" Current Orbit 250W MH actinic T5's. Geo Calcium Rx.

09/02/2006, 03:54 PM	#4
old salty Genius Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: The Island of Misfit Toys Posts: 3,131	I don't buy equipment for resale value, but it's nice to know that the high end stuff that I do have would sell rather quickly. Personally, I think that the best market out there are the folks who want high end, but can't afford it new. Take a few hundred dollars off the price of a new Deltec and it becomes attractive to many more people. __________________ "The man who reads nothing at all is better educated than the man who reads nothing but newspapers." Thomas Jefferson Current Tank Info: Out of the marine aquarium hobby

09/02/2006, 04:50 PM	#5
drives300 Premium Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bradenton, FL Posts: 961	i agree i would rather buy good used stuff than cheap new stuff. I have gone in/out of this hobby several times and I like to come as close to possible in breaking even. __________________ Water Param 79 degrees nit 0 amm 0 phos 0 salifers Calcium 450 salifer alk 11 dkh Ph 8-8.1 Current Tank Info: 90 Gallon,reef octopus nw150, 2 oceanflow mods, 2x 250w 10k mh, phos reactor

09/02/2006, 05:54 PM	#6
McCrary Can't Stop Time Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 3,079	Certain skimmers seem to hold their resale value very well. But I think it would be a mistake to purchase one based on that. __________________ Matt Patience is the best remedy for every trouble. Titus Maccius Plautus (254 BC - 184 BC), Rudens

09/02/2006, 12:08 PM	#3
bubbaOPPD Moved On Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Omaha, Nebraska Posts: 416	I just bought a H&S A200 3x F2001 and I never for one minute thought of resale value. Plus who could really want to buy a skimmer that cost as much as a used car.

09/02/2006, 07:10 PM	#7
drives300 Premium Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bradenton, FL Posts: 961	Why not.. Not just skimmers but all reef equiptment. Lighting etc. I like to plan on using them and if I upgrade or quit know I can get something back for most of it. __________________ Water Param 79 degrees nit 0 amm 0 phos 0 salifers Calcium 450 salifer alk 11 dkh Ph 8-8.1 Current Tank Info: 90 Gallon,reef octopus nw150, 2 oceanflow mods, 2x 250w 10k mh, phos reactor

09/02/2006, 07:19 PM	#8
rsxs1212 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Bradenton Posts: 1,148	i think i agree with alot of this.. resale is great but also just buying a big skimmer is too.. yeah bradenton!! maybe well have to hook up to take care of each others tanks or something when we are away lol... __________________ 60% of the time it works every time Current Tank Info: 75g RR,asm g3, eheim 1250, 2 1200's one highflow maxistream mod (may do another or med flow.) , 30g sump,fuge, 4x54 T5 lighting SLR reflectors, RO/DI top off, 20L FOWLR, 10 g prop/sps dedicated

09/02/2006, 07:25 PM	#9
McCrary Can't Stop Time Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 3,079	Resale value may have an impact on your decision to purchase an item. But to base any large part of your decision on the resale value would be a mistake. The decision should be based on performance, efficiency and quality. __________________ Matt Patience is the best remedy for every trouble. Titus Maccius Plautus (254 BC - 184 BC), Rudens

09/02/2006, 08:07 PM	#10
drives300 Premium Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bradenton, FL Posts: 961	I agree turbosnail . however I notice that performance, efficiency , and quality seem to go hand and hand with resale value. Ie Deltec skimmers. RSxs do you race. I go to the track with my neighbor occasionally who drag races. Well have to meet some time if you do __________________ Water Param 79 degrees nit 0 amm 0 phos 0 salifers Calcium 450 salifer alk 11 dkh Ph 8-8.1 Current Tank Info: 90 Gallon,reef octopus nw150, 2 oceanflow mods, 2x 250w 10k mh, phos reactor

09/03/2006, 01:09 PM	#11
rsxs1212 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Bradenton Posts: 1,148	yeah i go sometimes.. i dont race myself but i go sometimes.. i live in greyhawk landing which is right along 64 before desoto speedway by a couple miles.. like you said usually the higher the price the higher the quality or resale value.. except for example: seaclones.. coralife superskimmer in many people opinion are much better and are actually cheaper.. i doubt you could even sell a seaclone on here.. but a css could be sold.. for example you could get a css 65 for around 85 shipped off ebay NEW.. a seaclone is around 100 at like petsmart (i dont know how much on ebay).. but you could resell the css 65 for ive seen them go for anywhere from 35 to 50 here on rc but ive never even seen a seaclone for sale mainly because i think most of them end up in the trashcan __________________ 60% of the time it works every time Current Tank Info: 75g RR,asm g3, eheim 1250, 2 1200's one highflow maxistream mod (may do another or med flow.) , 30g sump,fuge, 4x54 T5 lighting SLR reflectors, RO/DI top off, 20L FOWLR, 10 g prop/sps dedicated

09/03/2006, 01:18 PM	#12
Altpers0na-old Reefer Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Flatwoods, ky Posts: 440	whats the blue book on a lightly used fisson?

09/03/2006, 01:45 PM	#13
clkwrk Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Mesa ,Az Posts: 10,257	IMO the resell value reflects the quality of a product . If Tunze streams sucked they wouldn't resell as high as they do .If deltec wasn't a nice skimmer that performs top notch its resell would be less also . Good performing quality componets keep their value because even a year or 3 down the line they still perform like new . __________________ ------- Feel free to use my photos for ONLY informative sites, education or enjoyment.All I ask is to include my Reef Central User id and where you got the photo ( RC).