Magnesium levels tough to keep up? Mabe wrong salt help???

Hendersonracing · 10/29/2006, 07:44 PM

Ok I have been using Seachem Reef Salt since day 1....But my magnesium levels stay pretty low...I measured the magnesiun in a 40 gallon water change @ 1.026 and it was 1050....is there a better salt that has better magnesium levels....I always add alot to keep the levels up...but at 1050 and 300 gallons it takes a whole lot????I was thinking of changing over to Reef Crystals...thats what Foster & Smith use I think????any suggestions????
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Hendersonracing · 10/31/2006, 11:45 AM

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Amphiprion · 10/31/2006, 11:48 AM

Reef Crystals seems to have consistently high magnesium levels. It does take a lot to boost magnesium levels.

jimbo045 · 10/31/2006, 12:25 PM

That 16oz. PurpleUp suppose to boost CA and Strontium and Mag. and other trace els. JD

Hendersonracing · 11/01/2006, 08:36 AM

I guess Im switching salts......My mag seems to be about 1050 without adding anything?

RockyMtnReef · 11/01/2006, 08:38 AM

Post how it goes. I am seriously thinking about switching to Reef Crystals myself (from Tropic Marin)

Shnabbles · 11/01/2006, 09:19 AM

I use reef crystals and iv lately been having a hard time keeping my mag, alk, and Ca levels in check.

jimbo045 · 11/01/2006, 10:07 AM

I use both Instant Ocean and Corallife salts. JD

rooroo · 11/01/2006, 11:06 AM

I switched from Reef Crystals to Tropic Marin as I had trouble keeping my alkalinity and calcium up. My calcium was consistantly falling under 350 no matter how much kalk I added. Now with tropic marin I have some troubles with alk but the kalk addition I do seems to keep it in acceptable levels. My magnesium was acceptable with Reef Crystals though. I would recommend Tropic Marin before Reef Crystals just from my personal experience. But everyone has a different experience.

RockyMtnReef · 11/01/2006, 01:39 PM

I have not had many problems maintaining levels but have been fighting a consistant DinoF. problem. I have done a bunch of reading on the subject and it seems that TM and TM Pro have measurable phosphates.

Can anyone else comment on this?

RichConley · 11/01/2006, 01:46 PM

Just buy some magflake and epsom salts, and do randy's 3 part. It wont cost you much, and will give you much more control.

Hendersonracing · 11/04/2006, 08:48 AM

I actually buy the 2 part little fishies a&b...I don't know where to get magflake here?

michaeldaly · 11/04/2006, 09:43 AM

You could also dose epsom salts in your tank to keep up magnesium levels.

michaeldaly · 11/04/2006, 09:50 AM

Sorry RC would not allow me to delete this double post.

Holmie_D_Klown · 11/04/2006, 11:57 AM

You can get Epsom salt at any pharmacy. It was much easier for me to find than Mag Flake. Use Randy's dosing calculator to figure out the right amount.

drives300 · 11/04/2006, 09:04 PM

Actually I thought Randy did not reccomend Epson salt but acuallly prefers mag flake

jmicky41 · 11/04/2006, 10:31 PM

Since mag is a relatively large constituent of sea water it takes a lot to impart a change. Lets say you have a 100 gallon tank and you are 300ppm low, it would take the better part of a 16oz bottle of Kent or ESV to get there.

Xirxes23 · 11/04/2006, 10:34 PM

Randy Holmes farley Recommends the 2 cup Mag chlor hexahydrate AND Epsom salt combo, just re-mixed a gallon of all three today.

What he does not recommend is the Epson salt only route, which accumulates a number of unwanted levels, unlike that of natural sea water.

I was able to use a business licence to purchase the chems bulk from a local chemical wherehouse, i was unable to find a lot of them here is California in the private sector.

Bebo77 · 11/04/2006, 10:42 PM

do you run a Ca reactor? if you do Zeovit makes these Mg granuals that you put in your Ca reactor and they raise your Mg level.. its an easy fix to your problem and you wont have to "dose"

http://www.zeovitusa.com/mm5/merchan...ry_Code=ZEOmag

Znut Reefer · 11/04/2006, 10:50 PM

You can buy the mag flake here wwwharveysalt.com they will sell to us. Just have to pay the $$ in shipping.

clsanchez77 · 11/04/2006, 11:24 PM

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That 16oz. PurpleUp suppose to boost CA and Strontium and Mag. and other trace els. JD

I would not recommend this product. Its mostly small sized aragonite sand which does not effectively dissolve in aquarium water. The trace elements and claims to raise calcium, alk and magnesium are futile as they are not measurable and alk, ca and mg can not be in solution together for any significant concetration or they will percipitate out.

I use Seachem salt as well and do find it low in Mg. I just add enough Mg to my water change batch to compensate.

Epsom salt is not highly recommended because it increases Sulphates. It does work however for occassional use.

Chris

Nyles · 11/04/2006, 11:37 PM

Joe dont use epsom, pm me and I will get you sorted with what I use.

10/29/2006, 07:44 PM	#1
Hendersonracing Moved On Join Date: May 2006 Location: Kentucky Posts: 1,656	Magnesium levels tough to keep up? Mabe wrong salt help??? Ok I have been using Seachem Reef Salt since day 1....But my magnesium levels stay pretty low...I measured the magnesiun in a 40 gallon water change @ 1.026 and it was 1050....is there a better salt that has better magnesium levels....I always add alot to keep the levels up...but at 1050 and 300 gallons it takes a whole lot????I was thinking of changing over to Reef Crystals...thats what Foster & Smith use I think????any suggestions???? __________________

10/31/2006, 11:48 AM	#3
Amphiprion Premium Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 6,611	Reef Crystals seems to have consistently high magnesium levels. It does take a lot to boost magnesium levels. __________________ You've done it now, haven't you? Current Tank Info: 40g breeder patch reef w/ seagrass; 2-250w XM 10K; Vortech MP40wES & MP10wES; BM Curve 7 skimmer; carbon & occasional GFO

11/01/2006, 01:46 PM	#11
RichConley Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Bostonian in Chicago going to DC Posts: 9,908	Just buy some magflake and epsom salts, and do randy's 3 part. It wont cost you much, and will give you much more control. __________________ NO TANKS!!!

11/04/2006, 09:04 PM	#16
drives300 Premium Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bradenton, FL Posts: 961	Actually I thought Randy did not reccomend Epson salt but acuallly prefers mag flake __________________ Water Param 79 degrees nit 0 amm 0 phos 0 salifers Calcium 450 salifer alk 11 dkh Ph 8-8.1 Current Tank Info: 90 Gallon,reef octopus nw150, 2 oceanflow mods, 2x 250w 10k mh, phos reactor

11/04/2006, 10:31 PM	#17
jmicky41 Registered Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Indiana Posts: 891	Since mag is a relatively large constituent of sea water it takes a lot to impart a change. Lets say you have a 100 gallon tank and you are 300ppm low, it would take the better part of a 16oz bottle of Kent or ESV to get there. __________________ The bake sale to raise money for the carwash has been cancelled - due to confusion. Current Tank Info: 125 fowlr: 280watts VHO, 75LBS of mixed rock, Deltec AP600 skimmer, wet dry, GRi 518 return pump, 15 watt Aqua UV,(2) tunze 6000 on a 7095, goldflake angel(RIP), flame angel(8 years old), mitratus butterfly, yellow tang, majestic rabbitfsih

10/31/2006, 11:45 AM	#2
Hendersonracing Moved On Join Date: May 2006 Location: Kentucky Posts: 1,656	?

10/31/2006, 12:25 PM	#4
jimbo045 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Aiea, HI. Posts: 1,788	That 16oz. PurpleUp suppose to boost CA and Strontium and Mag. and other trace els. JD

11/01/2006, 08:36 AM	#5
Hendersonracing Moved On Join Date: May 2006 Location: Kentucky Posts: 1,656	I guess Im switching salts......My mag seems to be about 1050 without adding anything?

11/01/2006, 08:38 AM	#6
RockyMtnReef Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: GA Posts: 635	Post how it goes. I am seriously thinking about switching to Reef Crystals myself (from Tropic Marin)

11/01/2006, 09:19 AM	#7
Shnabbles Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Clayton, DE Posts: 1,316	I use reef crystals and iv lately been having a hard time keeping my mag, alk, and Ca levels in check.

11/01/2006, 10:07 AM	#8
jimbo045 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Aiea, HI. Posts: 1,788	I use both Instant Ocean and Corallife salts. JD

11/01/2006, 11:06 AM	#9
rooroo Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: New Market, MD Posts: 406	I switched from Reef Crystals to Tropic Marin as I had trouble keeping my alkalinity and calcium up. My calcium was consistantly falling under 350 no matter how much kalk I added. Now with tropic marin I have some troubles with alk but the kalk addition I do seems to keep it in acceptable levels. My magnesium was acceptable with Reef Crystals though. I would recommend Tropic Marin before Reef Crystals just from my personal experience. But everyone has a different experience.

11/01/2006, 01:39 PM	#10
RockyMtnReef Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: GA Posts: 635	I have not had many problems maintaining levels but have been fighting a consistant DinoF. problem. I have done a bunch of reading on the subject and it seems that TM and TM Pro have measurable phosphates. Can anyone else comment on this?

11/04/2006, 08:48 AM	#12
Hendersonracing Moved On Join Date: May 2006 Location: Kentucky Posts: 1,656	I actually buy the 2 part little fishies a&b...I don't know where to get magflake here?

11/04/2006, 09:43 AM	#13
michaeldaly Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Earth Posts: 2,009	You could also dose epsom salts in your tank to keep up magnesium levels.

11/04/2006, 09:50 AM	#14
michaeldaly Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Earth Posts: 2,009	Sorry RC would not allow me to delete this double post.

11/04/2006, 11:57 AM	#15
Holmie_D_Klown Premium Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Land O' Lakes, FL Posts: 247	You can get Epsom salt at any pharmacy. It was much easier for me to find than Mag Flake. Use Randy's dosing calculator to figure out the right amount.

11/04/2006, 10:34 PM	#18
Xirxes23 Registered Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: San Diego Posts: 607	Randy Holmes farley Recommends the 2 cup Mag chlor hexahydrate AND Epsom salt combo, just re-mixed a gallon of all three today. What he does not recommend is the Epson salt only route, which accumulates a number of unwanted levels, unlike that of natural sea water. I was able to use a business licence to purchase the chems bulk from a local chemical wherehouse, i was unable to find a lot of them here is California in the private sector.

11/04/2006, 10:42 PM	#19
Bebo77 Premium Nonpaying Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Lost Posts: 14,377	do you run a Ca reactor? if you do Zeovit makes these Mg granuals that you put in your Ca reactor and they raise your Mg level.. its an easy fix to your problem and you wont have to "dose" http://www.zeovitusa.com/mm5/merchan...ry_Code=ZEOmag __________________ Gabriel Current Tank Info: 300 Gal Envision Tank(98Lx30Wx26T) 120 Gal SoCalCreations Sump, Deltec TC2560, 2 LumenarcsMini 1 Reg on a light mover W Radiums 250& 400, Gallaxy ballasts, Red Dragon 10m3 return W/ 2 WavySeas, 2 6155 Tunze streams

11/04/2006, 10:50 PM	#20
Znut Reefer Premium Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Claxton, Ga Posts: 3,396	You can buy the mag flake here wwwharveysalt.com they will sell to us. Just have to pay the $$ in shipping.

11/04/2006, 11:37 PM	#22
Nyles Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Cottage Grove, Or Posts: 80	Joe dont use epsom, pm me and I will get you sorted with what I use.