Would you take this chance???

t11t5 · 11/06/2006, 01:45 AM

Here is the situation. I have a 150g tank up and running, that is 15 inches away from an outside wall. I have no basement and no room for just equipment. My 30g sump/refugium are double stacked on a custom stand. They sit behind the tank. I want to move my tank 8 inches away from the wall to give me 23". I was going to drain water enough to take out some weight. Do you think this is possible?

150g AGA
230 lbs LR
125 lbs LS

TekCat · 11/06/2006, 01:57 AM

AFAIK, all AGA tanks have warning to never move tank unless it is empty. Good luck

bllfish · 11/06/2006, 05:26 AM

t11t5 - could you send me a pic of your setup. I am getting ready to do the same thing with the fuge & sump.

serpentman · 11/06/2006, 05:48 AM

I would not take the chance. I would drain it completely and then move it. Even without water, you are looking at 355lbs in sand and rock plus the weight of the tank. Shifting that kind of weight can have dire consequences. Just my .02

hubris007 · 11/06/2006, 01:00 PM

It CAN be done. A guy in the CIMA forum moved a tank about that size while it was nearly full. The whole project is a riot. Why don't you post the question over there and see if he'll tell you how to do it and upload the pictures.

bllfish · 11/06/2006, 04:26 PM

I read somewhere you should wrap or strap something around the tank glass so when you make the move there isn't extra pressure put against the seals and it keeps the glass from flexing as much. When I moved mine I removed everything, was not willing to take the chance.

tkeracer619 · 11/06/2006, 04:56 PM

Nope wouldnt do it.

tuckrule · 11/06/2006, 05:15 PM

4th down and 2 do you go for it? How stable is you're rock stack? If you do decide to move the tank loaded, I would line the inside with plexiglass first. Just in case it collapses it does not harm the glass. But in reality I would remove as much as I could. Why take the chance of a major consequence on the part of laziness?

shawn1965 · 11/06/2006, 05:33 PM

I would not do it, But if you do be sure to eat your WHEATIES.

Pete1399 · 11/06/2006, 06:06 PM

Why take the chance? You can take the rocks out pretty easily. The sand is a pain in the butt but it is doable with about a hours worth of your time.

bllfish · 11/06/2006, 06:10 PM

I do not think you have to take the sand out unless you just want to make it lighter. Just the rock & water HAVE to be removed.

petoonia · 11/06/2006, 10:46 PM

Load all of the rock and water into plastic garbage cans, use a pump to suck all of the water out.

Good Luck!!!

joker12552 · 11/06/2006, 11:02 PM

I would drain it as much as possible.

I got the idea to move my old 55 one time, about 1/3 full. Thats around 150lbs still left in the tank. The problem wasnt the weight though. The problem was I tripped a little bit at the same time that the water in the tank all sloshed to my side. End result was me on the ground with the tank landing on my chest. Hurt like a mother, but luckily didnt damage anything. After that I wont move a tank with that much water again. It is hard to control when it shifts rapidly, and even the smallest bobble can cause it.

Just my personal expierience, but I am sure some have done it without any problem. I just prefer to stay on the side of caution.

11/06/2006, 01:45 AM	#1
t11t5 I love Bass Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,847	Would you take this chance??? Here is the situation. I have a 150g tank up and running, that is 15 inches away from an outside wall. I have no basement and no room for just equipment. My 30g sump/refugium are double stacked on a custom stand. They sit behind the tank. I want to move my tank 8 inches away from the wall to give me 23". I was going to drain water enough to take out some weight. Do you think this is possible? 150g AGA 230 lbs LR 125 lbs LS

11/06/2006, 05:26 AM	#3
bllfish Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Stuart, Florida Posts: 1,818	t11t5 - could you send me a pic of your setup. I am getting ready to do the same thing with the fuge & sump. __________________ "I fish by myself because lots of people don't like me, and the ones that do like me, well, I don't want them to know my spots." ><)))))*>--- Current Tank Info: 72 bow, 36" stand, 4 54W T5, vantec stealth fans, eheim 1260, mj 1200 & 2 Koralia #1 to WaveMaster Pro, CPR 24" Aquafuge HOB & 7100K PC, JBJ Arctica chiller, LiterMeter III

11/06/2006, 05:48 AM	#4
serpentman part time superhero Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Deep in the Heart of the Snowbelt (NE OHIO) Posts: 5,698	I would not take the chance. I would drain it completely and then move it. Even without water, you are looking at 355lbs in sand and rock plus the weight of the tank. Shifting that kind of weight can have dire consequences. Just my .02 __________________ BS in Marine Bio ('96), First SW tank in 1992. Current Tank(s) 300g SPS with 90g frag tank and 40 anemone tank - decommissioned 46g LPS/Softy Cube 300g FOWLR under construction - decommissioned

11/06/2006, 04:26 PM	#6
bllfish Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Stuart, Florida Posts: 1,818	I read somewhere you should wrap or strap something around the tank glass so when you make the move there isn't extra pressure put against the seals and it keeps the glass from flexing as much. When I moved mine I removed everything, was not willing to take the chance. __________________ "I fish by myself because lots of people don't like me, and the ones that do like me, well, I don't want them to know my spots." ><)))))*>--- Current Tank Info: 72 bow, 36" stand, 4 54W T5, vantec stealth fans, eheim 1260, mj 1200 & 2 Koralia #1 to WaveMaster Pro, CPR 24" Aquafuge HOB & 7100K PC, JBJ Arctica chiller, LiterMeter III

11/06/2006, 04:56 PM	#7
tkeracer619 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Westminster, CO Posts: 17,289	Nope wouldnt do it. __________________ Hobby Experience: 9200ish gallons, 26 skimmers, and a handful of Kent Scrapers. Current Tank: Vortech Powered 600G SPS Tank w/ 100gal frag tank & 100g Sump. RK2-RK10 Skimmer. ReefAngel. Radium 20k.

11/06/2006, 01:57 AM	#2
TekCat Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: MN Posts: 3,130	AFAIK, all AGA tanks have warning to never move tank unless it is empty. Good luck

11/06/2006, 01:00 PM	#5
hubris007 Moved On Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Springfield, Il Posts: 1,520	It CAN be done. A guy in the CIMA forum moved a tank about that size while it was nearly full. The whole project is a riot. Why don't you post the question over there and see if he'll tell you how to do it and upload the pictures.

11/06/2006, 05:15 PM	#8
tuckrule Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Greece, NY Posts: 887	4th down and 2 do you go for it? How stable is you're rock stack? If you do decide to move the tank loaded, I would line the inside with plexiglass first. Just in case it collapses it does not harm the glass. But in reality I would remove as much as I could. Why take the chance of a major consequence on the part of laziness? __________________ Advice is what we ask for when we already know the answer but wish we didn't. Current Tank Info: 90G reef 20g sump 2/250mh 4vhos

11/06/2006, 05:33 PM	#9
shawn1965 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Lakeland Posts: 50	I would not do it, But if you do be sure to eat your WHEATIES.

11/06/2006, 06:06 PM	#10
Pete1399 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Im right here Posts: 369	Why take the chance? You can take the rocks out pretty easily. The sand is a pain in the butt but it is doable with about a hours worth of your time. __________________ Pete Current Tank Info: 75g, CSS220 Skimmer, DIY CREE LEDs, DIY Canopy, DIY Stand, 29g sump/fuge, Tunze nanostreams

11/06/2006, 06:10 PM	#11
bllfish Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Stuart, Florida Posts: 1,818	I do not think you have to take the sand out unless you just want to make it lighter. Just the rock & water HAVE to be removed. __________________ "I fish by myself because lots of people don't like me, and the ones that do like me, well, I don't want them to know my spots." ><)))))*>--- Current Tank Info: 72 bow, 36" stand, 4 54W T5, vantec stealth fans, eheim 1260, mj 1200 & 2 Koralia #1 to WaveMaster Pro, CPR 24" Aquafuge HOB & 7100K PC, JBJ Arctica chiller, LiterMeter III

11/06/2006, 10:46 PM	#12
petoonia HereWeGoAgain... Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,648	Load all of the rock and water into plastic garbage cans, use a pump to suck all of the water out. Good Luck!!! __________________ I've been in the hobby for about 10 years....(so I know a little bit)...(but not all that much).... Current Tank Info: 58G. Oceanic (Starphire). Mixed Reef

11/06/2006, 11:02 PM	#13
joker12552 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Oak Ridge, Tn Posts: 72	I would drain it as much as possible. I got the idea to move my old 55 one time, about 1/3 full. Thats around 150lbs still left in the tank. The problem wasnt the weight though. The problem was I tripped a little bit at the same time that the water in the tank all sloshed to my side. End result was me on the ground with the tank landing on my chest. Hurt like a mother, but luckily didnt damage anything. After that I wont move a tank with that much water again. It is hard to control when it shifts rapidly, and even the smallest bobble can cause it. Just my personal expierience, but I am sure some have done it without any problem. I just prefer to stay on the side of caution.