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Unread 11/29/2006, 10:53 AM   #1
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New Hydor pump

Just found out hydor has a new pump. Not sure if is been talked about yet....

http://www.hydor.it/inglese/koralia.htm


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Unread 11/29/2006, 10:58 AM   #2
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Take that Tunze.

Companies are FINALLY jumping on the prop pump bandwagon. Its about time. Hopefully they'll be cheap. ( a prop pump is no more expensive than a maxijet to make, people just are willing to pay more)

A couple more manufacturers, and cheap, efficient flow will be available to all.


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Unread 11/29/2006, 11:21 AM   #3
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Unread 11/29/2006, 11:28 AM   #4
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Seeing this makes me glad I never jumped on the tunze band wagon. Great product, but no powerhead is worth that much to me...


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Unread 11/29/2006, 11:28 AM   #5
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hopefully tunze will have to lower prices now lol


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Unread 11/29/2006, 11:34 AM   #6
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Every Hydor Product I have used has been top notch, I am looking forward to seeing these in my LFS !!


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Unread 11/29/2006, 11:45 AM   #7
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The product looks great and Hydor makes great products. I think is is comparable to the Tunze nano streams. The biggest one does 1200 gph. Maybe they will expand the line to compete with the 6060 & 6080 streams.


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Unread 11/29/2006, 11:48 AM   #8
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I didnt see anything indicating it was controllable? Did I miss that?


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Unread 11/29/2006, 11:52 AM   #9
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where are you getting that info greg? I'd like to find out more.

I'm wondering if they will make a magnet to hold onto 1" thick glass?


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Unread 11/29/2006, 12:13 PM   #10
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The product looks great and Hydor makes great products. I think is is comparable to the Tunze nano streams. The biggest one does 1200 gph. Maybe they will expand the line to compete with the 6060 & 6080 streams.
Looking at those, and the nano-streams, it looks like the hydor has a much more open shroud. That means they will probably be a little more diffuse, and use slightly less electricity.


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Unread 11/29/2006, 12:44 PM   #11
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I couldn't find a MSRP on these. Anyone find a retailer yet?


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Unread 11/29/2006, 01:26 PM   #12
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I dont know what that money is, you guys can figure it out. (someone know what in dollars?)
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Unread 11/29/2006, 02:00 PM   #13
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1 Euro is more or less $1.30 today


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Unread 11/29/2006, 05:30 PM   #14
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Sweet. Watch the ridiculous Tunze prices start dropping once these are out in the US market.


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Unread 11/29/2006, 05:37 PM   #15
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Well.... Not so fast.



Koralia 1

1500lt/h (330gph)

€ 32,00 (41.60USD)





Koralia 2

2300lt/h (506gph)

€ 45,00 (58.50USD)





Koralia 3

3200lt/h (704gph)

€ 60,00 (78USD)





Koralia 4

4600lt/h (1012gph)

€ 72,00 (93.6USD)




Not so great of the prices nor gph ratings.

Still more vendors for propeller pumps can only help the competition. I'll stick with my MJ mods for now


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Unread 11/29/2006, 05:39 PM   #16
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http://www.tropicalfishoutlet.com/Dr...Category=Pumps

Koralia 1 Turbo Pump 400 gp $22.68
Koralia 1 Turbo Pump 600 gp $27.72
Koralia 1 Turbo Pump 850 gp $31.86
Koralia 1 Turbo Pump 1200 gp $40.02

emailed them about being on a wavemaker:

Hello,

The Koralia should be available at retail sometime in Jan/Feb 2007 at retailers like Drs. Foster & Smith, That Fish Place, Marine Depot, and many other retail locations, etc.

The Koralia is not recommended for stop/start wavemakers, but it will work well on speed control wavermakers.

Sincerely,

Hydor USA, Inc.


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Unread 11/29/2006, 05:42 PM   #17
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Now those prices look a bit better.

This is the correct link by the way

http://www.tropicalfishoutlet.com/Dr...Category=Pumps


The gph ratings seem a bit inflated though.


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Unread 11/29/2006, 05:43 PM   #18
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sounds like they'll work on tunze/seio controllers then?

$40 for the 1200gph looks good =)


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Unread 11/29/2006, 05:47 PM   #19
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That looks nice. What is amazing is how they make it look nice too. I never liked the bulky tunze magnet and yet they make it look really nice. It's gonna take one manufacturer to keep the price low and I think most are gonna keep it at the same price since people are paying for it. If it isn't controllable, then I think it won't force any of the big boys to lower prices.

I understand the higher prices of the other but once the pump has been in the market for awhile, initial costs should of been paid for and price can go down. I honestly do not see how many of the controllable pumps can even cost that much to produce.


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Unread 11/29/2006, 05:47 PM   #20
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http://www.hydor.it/inglese/s_koralia.htm
looks like the wattage is even less than the Tunze Nano Streams!

8.5 watts for 1000gph.

The TFO-Supplies is selling them then? If they don't come out until Jan/Feb 2007, how come they're already on sale there?


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Unread 11/29/2006, 06:02 PM   #21
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That looks nice. What is amazing is how they make it look nice too. I never liked the bulky tunze magnet and yet they make it look really nice. It's gonna take one manufacturer to keep the price low and I think most are gonna keep it at the same price since people are paying for it. If it isn't controllable, then I think it won't force any of the big boys to lower prices.

I understand the higher prices of the other but once the pump has been in the market for awhile, initial costs should of been paid for and price can go down. I honestly do not see how many of the controllable pumps can even cost that much to produce.
They (Tunze, Vortech) charge that much because they can and people will pay for them. All it takes I think is for one or 2 manufacturers to break from the "mold" and release reasonably priced models and watch the rest start to follow accordingly. If they (Tunze) want to sell and compete they will have to lower the prices plain and simple. Either that or price themselves out fo the market altogether (kinda like what All Seas Marine did/is doing with their ASM skimmers )

The Hydor pumps do look very nice indeed. Leave it to the Italians for the nice design


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Unread 11/29/2006, 06:43 PM   #22
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sounds like they'll work on tunze/seio controllers then?

$40 for the 1200gph looks good =)
This is what I would like to know. I'm about to place an order for 4 of the 1200's if I can buy an SEIO controller to run them.

Anyone got any insight?



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Unread 11/29/2006, 06:45 PM   #23
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If indeed that they could work on Tunze controllers why would you want the SEIO controller instead? The Tunze controller costs less and does more.

http://www.marinedepot.com/md_viewIt...product=TZ2131


Still I would like to know if this is possible as well.

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Unread 11/29/2006, 06:47 PM   #24
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haha ok who wants to be the guinea pig?


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Unread 11/29/2006, 06:48 PM   #25
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I thought the TUNZE controller have special outlets for the pumps.

I've never owned a set of TUNZE, so I don't know much about them.

Thanks D.

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